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When People Claim They’ve Been to Heaven and Back, Beware!

I wrote an earlier article on Mary C. Neal, To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk With God.  I cautioned that this book is devoid of the gospel of Christ.  It lacks any call to sinful people to repent of their sin and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ in full and genuine faith, else they will end in hell.  A couple of comments indicated that I was being too harsh on Neal.  But I have yet to have any one produce examples from her book in which she in fact does what I maintain she does not — present the true gospel of Christ.  And, by the way, I have completely read this book:)

This all-accepting naivete that accepts claims like Neals is of the very same spirit that accepts the words of evil men/abusers in our churches.  The thing is directly related.  Rather than searching the Word of God and comparing what someone is saying with that truth, Christians are taking the easy way and embracing most anyone who talks about “god.”

Listen now to Neal’s opening words and as you read them, ask yourself what claim Neal is making for herself.  What is she telling us that she was appointed as?  Here is what she says:

“God and His angelic messengers are present and active in our world today and this involvement and intervention is both ordinary in its frequency and extraordinary in its occurrence. Despite leading what I would consider a very ordinary life, I have had the privilege of being touched by God in visible and very tangible ways. One of these experiences began on January 14, 1999, when I was vacationing in South America with my husband. While boating, I was pinned underwater in my kayak and drowned. I died and went to heaven. After a brief stay, I was returned to my body. I returned to my Earthly life with two shattered legs and severe pulmonary problems. I was hospitalized for more than a month, wheelchair bound for even longer, and did not return to my orthopaedic surgery practice for more than six months. Many have described my accident as terrible and tragic. I describe it as one of the greatest gifts I have ever received. The series of events surrounding my accident and recovery were nothing short of miraculous. Not only did I have the privilege of experiencing heaven, but I continued to experience the intensity of God’s world and conversed with angels several times in the weeks after my return. Through this experience and conversation, I gained an understanding of many of life’s important questions, such as “What happens when we die?”, “Why are we here?”, and “Why do bad things happen to good people?”. I also gained an understanding of the disciple Paul’s statement from 1 Corinthians 13 that of faith, hope, and love, the most enduring is love. I already had reasons to believe in miracles, but taking a journey to heaven and back transformed my faith into knowledge and my hope into reality. My love remained unchanged and everlasting. One of the several reasons for my return to Earth was to tell my story to others and help them find their way back to God. During my initial recovery, I was invited to share my story with small groups in my community and these people shared my story with their friends and family. As it was spread to many parts of the country, I was often told of the profound impact my story made on the lives of the people who heard it. In the process of sharing, I realized that my story does not really belong to me, but to God and is meant to be shared. It has inspired many people, stimulated discussion, and has often resulted in a rejuvenated relationship with God. It has lessened people’s fear of death and increased their passion for living a full and meaningful life. My story has deepened people’s faith and given them hope for the future.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God . Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

What is she claiming?  She is announcing that God has appointed her as a prophet, given her His Word, and sent her back into this world to preach it.   She says that her message lessens people’s fear of death.  This is her message.

Actually, we do not have to go any further at all to reject her claims.  She is a false prophet, and her message is a false gospel.  Everything she claims God told her — “What happens when we die?”  “Why are we here?’  “Why do bad things happen to good people?”  — has already been fully and finally addressed in Scripture, and in some cases the answer is “that is not for you to know right now.”  The faith we have has been once and for all delivered to us and we are to earnestly contend for it and against anyone who would come along preaching a different gospel (Jude; Gal 1).  Let me ask you this:  Does the Bible’s message — do the Words of Christ Himself — universally instill in every human being that they do not need to be afraid of death?  Of course not!  Yet this is Neal’s message.

What has all of this to do with abuse?  I have had more than one abuse victim tell me that some “prophet” told them what the Lord had to say to them about their abusive situation. And how many of our readers can tell stories of the many times that people, claiming to be speaking for Christ, have given them absolutely terrible and wrong information?  People like Neal are no help to victims of abuse.

I am going to present several more quotes here from Neal’s book, and you tell me what she obviously believes about how a person gets right with God — indeed, if she even thinks that it is necessary to do so:

“The Bible describes many times when angels are sent by God to help those who are in need; often in times of turmoil, life-threatening situations, or at the moment of death. Miracles appear to be universal and are reported by Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, and Hindus. The Quran describes a miracle as the “supernatural intervention in the life of a human being.” The Catholic Church describes miracles as “works of God,” usually with a specific purpose, such as the conversion of a person to the faith. Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary defines a miracle as an “extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God . Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

“Although I had been baptized as an infant and confirmed in the Presbyterian Church, I chose to undergo a full-immersion baptism during one of the alter calls at the Oakland Road Christian Church. It makes me chuckle to think about this, as I am pretty much of a social introvert. The very idea of my responding to a public altar call and being immersed in a Plexiglas tank set into the front wall of a full sanctuary is enough to make most of my friends laugh out loud. Regardless, I actually did this and the Holy Spirit must have descended upon me, for when I emerged, I felt light as a feather. I was energized, euphoric, and ecstatic. I felt cleansed and reborn; I became a new person. God’s promise that “if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17, NIV) was fulfilled.”  [Notice no mention of sin, no mention of repentance, no mention of Christ’s death on the cross].

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God (pp. 9-10). Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

“When the opportunity arose, I also intermittently attended services at the Presbyterian Church, the Catholic Church, the Lutheran Church, and the non-denominational Christian churches in my family’s community. I have always appreciated the variety of religious denominations that are present in our world. Their different styles of worship and ways of communicating offer people in different stages of their life and spiritual journeys an opportunity to find the place where they feel most comfortable and a place where their faith can grow.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God (pp. 17-18). Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

“I spent a great number of hours contemplating what God was asking of me. Even before my boating accident, I did not really believe in luck or coincidence as phenomena. I believed that God has a hand in most things and that most of what happens is part of a larger plan. I was laying in my hospital bed wondering about the purpose of my accident when I suddenly found myself sitting on a rock in a large, sun-drenched field. I was having a “conversation” with an angel who was sitting on a nearby rock. I call the being an angel, but I don’t really know what he was: angel, messenger, Christ, or teacher. I do know that he was of God, in God, and from God. As we conversed, I asked questions, and he gave me answers. We discussed how to “rejoice always,” even in the midst of terrible circumstances, and discussed the longstanding question, “Why do bad things happen to good people?” During this conversation, I received the following wisdom. We are each given the opportunity and privilege to come to Earth for different reasons. Sometimes we come in order that we may personally develop and strengthen the fruits of our spirit: those of love, kindness, patience, joy, peace, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Sometimes we come to help someone else develop the fruits of the spirit. We all come to Earth to become more Christ-like, as noted in Romans 8. In preparation for our journey to Earth, we are able to make a basic outline for our life. This is not to imply that we, the humans, are entirely in charge of our life’s design. It is more like God creates it, then we review it and discuss it with our “personal planning” angel. Within the algorithm are written branch points in our lives at which times we may exit, returning to God, or we may be redirected to a different task and goal.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God (p. 98). Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Now, notice this one.  It sounds so “orthodox” and “biblical.”  Yet we know that Neal in no way interprets the Person and Work of the Lord Jesus Christ as it is set forth in Scripture.  How do we know?  Because for Neal, virtually any religion or -ism is a valid path to God.  Statements like this one that follows are quite typical of people who come along preaching “another Jesus” —

“My point is this; interpreting something that happens as being inherently “good” or “bad” is entirely a matter of perspective. Do “bad things happen to good people”? I’m not so sure. Jesus was certainly a very “good” man. His crucifixion would certainly be interpreted by many as a “bad” thing. His disciples were devastated, yet the Old Testament prophesies would not have been fulfilled and a new covenant with God would not exist if Jesus had not been crucified. From this perspective, it is difficult to declare that the crucifixion of Jesus was a “bad” thing. In fact, it is the very heart of the “good news” that Christians celebrate.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God (p. 104). Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

But for Neal, any theology works —

“One day after I had recovered enough to return to my medical practice, a woman I knew arrived at my office without an appointment. She knew it was my busiest day of the work week, but she insisted on speaking with me. Now, to understand this part of the story, you must understand our shared history. Shortly after I began my medical practice in Wyoming, this woman’s husband came to me for care. He underwent a major surgery, which I performed, and had no difficulties. His hospital course after surgery was entirely uncomplicated; he felt great and by the third day, I was beginning to plan his discharge from the hospital. Unbeknown to me, my patient and his wife had visited with their Latter-Day Saints bishop prior to this surgery and had received blessings from him regarding this surgery. He had told my patient’s wife that she would have to give up the thing that she loved the most. He told my patient that God was very pleased with him, that the veil between this world and the next would be very thin, and that he would be required to make a choice.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God (p. 139). Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Ok, do I really need to go any further?  Neal uses no biblical discernment as she allegedly converses with “angels.”  The Bible tells us to test the spirits to see if they are of God (1 John 4) and that the devil himself comes as an angel of light. But Neal just “knows” her “angels” are of God.  Furthermore, notice that she is teaching the pre-existence of the soul, and even says that we are conscious before we are born and that we have memories of that pre-existence,  doctrines that are all totally foreign to Scripture.  She denies the fallenness of man.  No mention of sin at all.  No need for repentance.  Just strike up a relationship with God.  But the Bible says that our God is a consuming fire, that after death comes the judgment, and that unless we are in the Lord Jesus Christ, we will not see Him as a warm, feel-good bright light, but as the holy, holy, holy God who cannot even look upon sin.  Without Christ, we will perish in hell for all eternity.

And yet, with the very same gullibility and naivety about evil that allows them to be duped by abusers, listen to Neal’s welcome by numbers of churches who eat up her message with no discernment at all–

“A couple of months later, when I had physically recovered some and become a little more mobile, I was asked to speak to groups at several local churches. There was great interest in hearing my story and I was happy to share my experience of God’s miraculous interventions in my life. Portions of my story have been recounted on many occasions since then, and by numerous people. An audio recorded version of my original presentation is still being circulated. I see this continued interest in my story as a demonstration of people’s desire to be inspired by, and believe in, the possibility of God’s intervention.”

Neal, Mary (2011-03-01). To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk with God (p. 135). Circle 6 Publishing. Kindle Edition.

I am very sorry for anyone who thinks that Mary Neal is a Christian, and that she is a prophet who has been given a wonderful message by God Himself.  Because if you believe that, then there are far more weighty matters that you need to deal with than simply being upset with me.  As for me, I take my stand on Christ and His Word and I heed the clear warning given in Holy Scripture:

Col 2:18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.

If anyone thinks my words here are too harsh and just plain unkind, I refer you to the words of the Apostle Paul in Galatians 1 regarding anyone who comes along preaching a false gospel.

32 Comments

  1. Robin

    Satan cunningly uses false witnesses – Matthew 7:22-27: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended , and the floods came , and the winds blew , and beat upon that house; and it fell : and great was the fall of it.

    A reminder to all of us to “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth.”
    –2 Tim. 2:15.

  2. mary king

    I just finished this book and about midway through it began to feel uncomfortable with her claims and at first I couldn’t put my finger on it exactly. I continued to read and the feeling increased. By the end of the book two things arose in my mind and the one is what you point out here, no gospel of Christ exists in the lines or even between them. Another point that kept gnawing at me is the fact that she kept saying we are eternal and have lived before having bodies. Now I find no scripture to back this up. She gave no indication in the book that anything needed to be done and that dying will just be all ok for everyone. Not the message I get from scripture. I think when a Christian reads this book they will be worked on by the Holy Spirit in these areas. A very sneaky false teaching. Was glad to see your opinions here and advice to align what we read with scripture.

    • Jeff Crippen

      Thank you Mary. Yes, the book is rather intriguing at the first but one’s spiritual warning lights start going off by midway and certainly before the end she is found to be presenting a false gospel that is no gospel at all.

  3. Gerry

    I too have gotten about half way through the book and when I got to the part where her “Latter Day Saints” friend had a conversation with her dead husband I felt sick to my stomach. Not only is Mormanism a cult, the Word clearly states that we cannot communicate with the dead. This woman obviously has no scriptural foundation. It is unfortunate as this book could have been an effective tool to lead others to Christ if Dr. Neil had in fact studied the Word more thoroughly both before and after her accident. I do believe however that Jesus loves her and that there is hope that she will give her heart entirely to Christ – that is my prayer anyway and I believe that should be our focus as Christians.

  4. Esther

    I was thinking about buying the book, but I decided to hear her radio interviews on youtube first. Turns out it was a smart choice. It was clear that she’s a false prophet when she hesitated to answer the radio host when he asked her if hell really exists. She simply stated that she doesn’t know because she never experienced it. According to her, people can choose to enter heaven or not after they die. She says that she just couldn’t imagine how loving God could condemn people who lived in an unfortunate circumstance of being unable to hear or learn about spirituality. I too think she needs to read her Bible.

    Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the WRATH OF GOD comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Ephesians 5:6-7)

    • Jeff Crippen

      Yes, very good observation Esther. One of the marks of a genuinely regenerate person is that they have been given a love for God’s Word (Psalm 119, etc). Whatever the Bible says, we believe it because it is the Word of God, even if some things in it are hard to understand and in some cases impossible for our finite minds to reconcile. This doesn’t mean that we throw out logic, but that we acknowledge that God is God and as such His ways are past our finding out very often. This lady sits in judgment on God and His Word and has set herself up as God. Unless she turns and repents, she will one day find out, sadly, that there is indeed a hell.

  5. Bruce

    I’m with you on all accounts. I was really blown away by her claim of certainty that we are allowe to choose God after death. Like my wife said, “Who would choose hell?”

    I was also a bit confused that she claimed to real spirituality or close relationship with God, yet He chose to use her is such a spectacular way. Okay, I might buy into that. I’m willing to let God out of the “box” that conservative teaching sometimes places Him in. When she started talking about the Latter Day Saints, I was really taken aback. They are, I believe by definition a cult, because they do not accept the diety of Jesus Christ. Yet God uses them? God can use anyone He wants, but to actually speak to their spirit and convey prophesies and messages to His children… That definitely challenges my understanding of how God works according to scripture.

    I’m only about 3/4 of the way through and I plan on finishing the book. The sad part of this whole thing is that the book is owned by a lady in my church and she is passing it around for others to read. I guess as a church leader, I need to present my concerns about the theology presented by the author in contrast to the teaching of scripture.

    • Jeff Crippen

      Thanks Bruce. Yes, one has to wonder about the professed Christianity of someone who lacks such basic discernment as the lady in your church. Christ’s Spirit is in and teaches every real believer. He is the Spirit of truth vs error. Good job!

    • Laurie

      Revelation…God will use the ten kings to do His will and destroy mystery babylon, but I don’t think you will find those kings in heaven beside Jesus afterward. So yeah, He used a donkey to rebuke Balaam, He can use whatever and whomever He needs to to accomplish His will. I would rather be found, in God’s eyes, as family instead of a tool in the shed, though.

  6. Dan Nieves

    The scripture says “I am from above you are from beneath”

  7. Your article was a good antidote to the recent interview with Neal in Christianity today. My ears pricked up when she said that she didn’t know what “The ssallonians” was.

    • Jeff Crippen

      Ha! That’s great, but not surprising I suppose. Thanks for your comment.

  8. sandy

    There were so many uneasy feelings while reading this book that 1/3 of the way through I texted my son and told him not to download it! The most blaringly obvious problem I had is the absolute lack of any mention of Jesus as Savior and the need for redemption for sinners! I would hope that in a book all about going to heaven you might mention the way to get there; Only through Jesus saving grace! I began to suspect that the author might be mormon, though she is careful not to mention her church affiliation in Wyoming. Many false teachings prevalent in the mormon church were woven deceptively into the pages, especially the mention of children remembering their home in heaven since they aren’t long removed from being there with God. Hmmm We must be ever alert of false teachings! I also agree with Gerry. We must pray for the author. I don’t think she purposely is trying to deceive her readers. It sounds like she has been deceived herself and is in need of a Savior!

    • Thanks Sandy. Interesting about the Mormonesque allusions. Thanks for pointing that out.

  9. Hello there! This blog post couldn’t be written much better! Looking at this post reminds me of my previous roommate! He always kept talking about this. I’ll send
    this information to him. Fairly certain he’ll have a great read. Thank you for sharing!

    • Jeff Crippen

      Thanks Autumn. Glad it was of help to you and trust it will be to your friend as well.

  10. Michael Brace

    When I read this book, I had noticed that Mary’s post-NDE doctrines contradicted scripture in the same ways that you have pointed out. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, by assuming that her experiences of answered prayers and even her out of body experience could have been real and from God. My theory is that her desire to return to the place she had been when she “died” prompted her seek out an additional experiences during her recovery. I think this could have been her turning point, as Satan could have seized the opportunity to come as a counterfeit “angel of light”. It sounds like she was using the occult practice of astral projection. She said she was losing her ability to go in and out of the spirit world, as if she was trying to control it. Even if her NDE vision had been real, the lies told to her by the “angel” influenced how she interpreted what she thinks she saw. For example, the human soul escorts that she had known for eternity could really have been angel escorts with the familiarity of God’s Spirit about them, having come from God’s presence. She may have misunderstood.

    However, the fact that she never did profess an acceptance of Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior and never once mentions her battle against sin, makes me wonder about her entire belief system. Some of her rhetoric implies that she believed in this, such as “new creation in Christ” after the water baptism. I assumed she was implying the repentance and faith commitment to Jesus in parallel with the baptism, but then again, how can these important doctrines be entirely left out of her life’s story. Apparently, she claims to have received the Holy Spirit without first admitting sin, asking for forgiveness, confessing Jesus as Lord and Savior, and asking him into her heart. The absence of this had slipped my attention until I read your article, so thanks for pointing it out. I now have to wonder if she ever did get saved at all.

    As far as the answered prayers, maybe God did answer those because he still plans on saving her one day. Maybe He was showing her His love to prompt her towards legitimate salvation, but she missed the cues and went down a misleading path instead. I think there is still hope for her, but it does make me angry that false doctrine is being taught and is fooling the undiscerning. I hope she publicly repents to undo some of the damage. Thanks for having the courage to take a stand to defend the gospel even if you made some enemies. If people insist on accepting false teachings against attempts to correct them using the sound doctrines taught by the Bible, then they are just fulfilling the prophesy from 2 Timothy 4:3-4. There is nothing else you can really do except follow the advice of 2 Timothy 4:5 and stay true to your faith and your mission to serve.

    • Jeff Crippen

      Thank you Michael!

  11. Kim Costanzo

    Jeff,

    To begin, I want to say that I am a “true” Christian who, due to finding 99.9% percent of all religions false or deficient in preaching the Word, I have repented and seek my triune God in my Bible. Growing up Catholic, like many, I fell away and always knew something was wrong. When I read about people who say they went to heaven, or saw Jesus or angels, I too noticed they all have messages and say things that are unscriptural. So I know no matter what the experience was, it was not the authentic jesus or angels. It was the cunning evil one.

    I know something about death. I had a heart attack at 43 in the waiting room of a hospital and died. It was like the blink of an eye. Out! I woke after a medically induced coma and had no memory at all of any of it beyond wondering why God let me live after three arrests that night. I know now it was because I was in an unsaved state at the time.

    About sixteen years prior, I was in bed reading and my husband was watching tv. Our 7 yr old and 20 month old daughters were asleep. I was reading Maribel Morgan’s book, “The Joy Of Being A Woman”. About half (or more) through the book, she was talking about Jesus and how He suffered and died for us. I don’t know why, but I was OVERWHELMED with such love for Him and almost to tears was thinking “He’s sooooo goooood.” Then I was no longer in the room. I was just my face going up in a sky that looked like ours but wasn’t. I could see myself straight on as well. My eyes were closed and a smile on my face. I was going up to a bright light above and could feel a gentle air. The feelings I had were total love, peace and it was euphoric. It was from everywhere. It reminded me almost of the euphoria when I once had to take codeine for a tooth. And I remember thinking, no wonder people go on drugs! I was no ones daughter, sister, wife, friend or mother. As I rose higher and higher, I thought, where am I going? As I kept rising a bit quicker, I thought wait a minute! I have a baby and I have to take care of her! At that, I felt fear. And the second that happened, I went down in a wooosh. I felt that gentle air fast on my face. And just like that, I was in my bed, book in hand. I immediately threw the book in the drawer and did not look at it for seven years. After years of thinking about it from time to time, I wondered why I didn’t see anyone. An old aunt said it was a “gift” and I didn’t understand. I did come away no longer afraid of death which used to terrify me. I once told an old kindly priest about it looking to see if he had some answers. At the end of telling him, instead of answers, I saw jealousy in his eyes. Being disappointed, I had a light bulb moment. I can’t tell this to a clergy person. They probably felt they had spent their whole life dedicated to God and never had any “experiences.”

    Now fast forward to the Winter of 2009/10. My younger daughter had become involved with Jehovah Witnesses. I was beyond upset and afraid for her soul. But although I knew it was so so wrong, I was pretty biblically illiterate. So (living alone, retired and living in the “snowed in” north country) I went online and researched the JW’s up and down. BUT, it brought me to the Bible. I also found a bible scholar who is scripture driven online. Dr. Paul Elliott of TeachingTheWord.org. Now I was understanding what I was reading. I was even “compelled” to one night read all of Paul who I knew little of, when I really wanted to get out of that office chair.

    That next Summer, my daughter, who listened not at all to me, left the JW’s due to some hypocrisy she saw. So I kind of fell away from my bible reading. I, then had to have a quadruple bypass in 2011. Due to a wrong med which caused my lungs to shrink to prune size and I was close to death. At the closest point to death in the ICU cubicle, I opened my eyes. All looked brighter than usual but fuzzy and there was a lot of people (too many for the size of the hall) all walking; a lot of activity. I saw these two short guys in 50’s clothes sitting just outside and to the left close together in chairs. The one on the left was slight and dark haired but he was very unclear. The other one was heavier and had rust red hair with an overly defined hairline. They had this petulant, mad like spoiled kids attitude. The red haired one that I could see clearly was looking straight at me and all of a sudden he put his arm behind his head, reached over and pulled up his nostrils at me as if to say, ummm the two words we are not supposed to say. I was surprised, but I knew what he was conveying. I must have fell asleep at that point. When I woke, it came to me that they were demons ! The next day I was better and a girlfriend (devout Catholic) came to see me. We used to discuss religion a lot. I told her about the demons. I was angry. I said to her, “I studied God’s Word all last Winter and even if not constant now, this is what I get? Demons?” How come I didn’t see Jesus? Or an angel? She said she didn’t know. After she left and still dealing with my resentment, I thought, I need to think on this from top to bottom. As I remembered it step by step and coming to my big why did I see them instead… a voice came into my head and said, “We kept them away from you. Now whose side are you on”? Oh my Lord! I was overcome with shame and was soooooo sorry. Then I thought, Oh my, doesn’t the Lord know I would never choose them! Never! They were beyond disgusting. I choose the light not the dark.

    Now fast forward to this Winter. Again, retired and snowed in a lot! My daughter is now into hebrew roots and more invested in it everyday. So, back into my Bible every day. But there’s a problem. How can you explain the “spirit” when they don’t have it?? So I see the Lord’s work here. He has now pulled me irrevocably to Him and His Word, never to depart. I am saved. Just hope my daughter sees the light.

    So, in my two experiences, I never saw anyone. I did not see heaven. I must have been on the outskirts of the outskirts. But, it gave me a little glimpse. The scriptures now make sense to me and
    the things Jesus said. Heaven is all one and all in it are one and filled with the light and love from God. Can you imagine how much more it will be when actually there!?

    So now I look up and not to this dying world. My life has been tough lately, but I am His and He is mine. My faith is solid no matter what happens. All these people writing these books have no clue that the evil one is deceiving them so they can deceive everybody else.

  12. Mary

    Well done. This false prophet needs to be exposed.

  13. kind of anonymous

    Her reference to us “coming to earth” is straight out of Mormonism. Mormons believe that there are spirit babies in heaven waiting their turn on earth. My relative was totally drawn into Mormonism by the handsome and kind young “elders’ who came to our door. They and their church were willing to invest time and resources in her “spiritual development”, as well as giving her a sense of family that was entirely missing in her life; they also gave her a book called ” my turn on earth” that postulated this very premise. I am frankly, really shocked to hear that Christianity today would feature this person as an example of something genuine rather than an expose on false teaching. Wow, really makes you sit up and take notice that all that calls itself God is NOT God.

  14. Dan

    You know, I am currently reading her second book and noting that there is no mention of an alternate to heaven: hell. I sense that you are probably an Evangelical. I am a Catholic and although we have are differences, we both know that the only way to heaven is through and ONLY through Jesus Christ. I will continue to read the book keeping in mind that this is her experience. God bless you.

  15. Julie B

    So many “red flags” in this book, where would you begin? One of the most troubling is that she states that she didn’t know if she was talking to an angel or Jesus! Oh my goodness – if you were in the presence of Jesus you would know it absolutely! The experiences in the book simply do not line up with scripture. Enough said. Once again, do you believe what the Bible says or what this author claims?

    • Hi Julie
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    • Jeff Crippen

      Julie B – Thank you. Sound insights. I wrote that article a long time ago and yet is still amazes me how many people will see it and then get all upset and write a comment telling us that it is wrong to judge the author and how do we know what she wrote can’t be true? Amazing because anyone with an ABC level of Bible knowledge and discernment can spot the falsehoods in it very quickly.

  16. Georgia

    I just read her book after seeing her on Fox & Friends talking about her new book. I really thought that since she is a doctor that her account would be completely credible. I, too, was really bothered in my spirit by what I was reading. She says that went up to the doorway of a hall after her death where she could either choose God or reject God. That is saying that we still have a choice AFTER we have died. How misleading is that??

    The visitation of spirits from her her two earthly fathers was troubling as well. Her biological dad visiting her as an owl (owls look evil to me) and her step-father making a Bradford tree bloom giving him power over nature. The inference of reincarnation was also troubling. She says that our souls exist before we come to earth means that our souls are recyclable. If that were the case, how do we have personality traits from our family members…some whom we have never met? We would already be who we are prior to conception and the formation of the soul meaning family members would have no input into our genetics.

    I think that Satan took her experience and is using it and her to spread false doctrine to those who want to know more about heaven. Repentance and salvation through Jesus Christ are the ONLY way to heaven, and she missed the opportunity to share that truth to her readers. She has a mixed bag of theological beliefs with many not validated in scripture. …

    I have to wonder if she truly does have the Holy Spirit dwelling within her because if she did, she would recognize the false doctrines. He is why all of us felt that prick in our spirits as we read the book as the Holy Spirit guides us all into truth if He dwells within us. Thank God that we have that available to us so that we aren’t fooled by false doctrine.

    • Hi Georgia, someone who teaches such unbiblical ideas – and who obviously makes money from their false teachings and enjoys the fame on the talk shows — cannot be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. End of story.

    • You may like to check out this page of ours, Georgia. It might help you better understand the definition of a Christian.

      https://cryingoutforjustice.com/can-someone-be-an-abuser-and-be-a-christian/

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  17. Dennis

    My comments are similar too many others that have reviewed this book. I’ve just read this book and thought it was good at the beginning but started to wonder about where she was going with this book. It appeared that she was telling us how we can straighten our lives by biblical references that would include all people: Christians Jews and Muslims as an example.

    I may have missed it but I did not find any reference to John 14:6 that indicates Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the father except through Him. If written by a Christian, this should include the way to heaven as seen in the scriptures. If I was a non-believer reading this I would have no concept of the way to heaven as described in John 14:6. This makes me question the validity of the advice given to others regarding the approach to Eternity.

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