A Cry For Justice

Awakening the Evangelical Church to Domestic Violence and Abuse in its Midst

The abuser’s deceptive way of asking questions; and Jesus’ shrewd use of questions to stymie the wicked

Telling the truth is central to Christianity. In the lead-up to my conversion, God pricked me multiple times about how I was a liar and I had to stop doing it. 

Buckling on the belt of truth is the first step in donning the armor of God.  If we don’t put on truth, the rest of the armor will be of little use.

… take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth … (Eph. 6:13-14)

For the domestic abuser, lies and deception are core conduct. Many of the lies they tell are designed to make them appear virtuous, honourable and beyond suspicion so they can more easily carry out their villainous deeds.

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Rev. 22:15 KJV)

The guileful abuser is able to make a lie in the form of a question; rather like wrapping up skunk-smell in a box with pretty paper and topping it off with a fancy ribbon.

Let’s look at how Judas did it.

Then one of the twelve, whose name was Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests and said, “What will you give me if I deliver him over to you?” And they paid him thirty pieces of silver. And from that moment he sought an opportunity to betray him. … (Matthew 26:14-16)

So, having made a deal to betray Jesus to the religious leaders, having just signed himself up as an avowed enemy of Christ, he sat at the Last Supper with the other disciples and asked an ‘innocent’ smooth-as-butter question:

When it was evening, he reclined at table with the twelve. And as they were eating, he said, “Truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me.”  And they were very sorrowful and began to say to him one after another, “Is it I, Lord? He answered, “He who has dipped his hand in the dish with me will betray me. The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” Judas, who would betray him, answered, “Is it I, Rabbi?” He said to him, “You have said so.”  (vs 20-25)

Notice how Judas parroted the other disciples’ question. They had all asked “Is it I?”, so he asked it too. The abuser who masquerades as a Christian is a copy-cat; he notices what believers say and parrots their words. And he does it so well that for most people it goes under the radar.

Here is another example of Judas asking a softer-than-oil question:

Mary therefore took a pound of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (he who was about to betray him), said, “Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?” He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it.  (John 12:3-6)

How godly Judas was! Such a good steward of valuable resources! So charitable to the poor! Could anyone raise an eyebrow at that?  And he was courteous: he didn’t accuse or name anybody outright — he just posed a reasonable question to gently get people to think about their ethics. He was a model gentleman!

Not.

Good questions

Like all forms of speech and writing, questions can be guileful or godly, villainous or benevolent. Questions can be posed to distract from the truth, or to probe for the truth.

Questions can also be framed to deflect the motives of fools, or to obstruct the schemes of the wicked. This is how Jesus often used questions. He asked shrewd questions to stymie those who craftily interrogated him to trap him.

Jesus answered them, “I also will ask you one question, and if you tell me the answer, then I also will tell you by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, from where did it come? From heaven or from man?(Matt 21:24-25)

But Jesus answered [the Saducees], “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God:  ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.”  (22:23-32)

Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question, saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?” They said to him, “The son of David.” He said to them, “How is it then that David, in the Spirit, calls him Lord, saying,
The Lord said to my Lord,  “Sit at my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet”? If then David calls him Lord, how is he his son?”
 (22:41-45)

When Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answered them, “Why do you question in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise and walk’? (Luke 5:22-23)

Many more examples of shrewd questioning could be cited from the New Testament epistles, not to mention the OT prophets. Maybe you can think of more.  Or perhaps you can give examples of nefarious questions posed by abusers (but be careful not to cite examples that might too closely identify you.)

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By the way, I have not forgotten my promise to write a post about the ethics of using deception as a means of protection when one is under abuse or persecution, such as when the Hebrew midwives lied to protect the newborn Israelite boys in Egypt.

For further reading: Converting statements into questions: a skill for bystanders who want to help victims of abuse. 

 

22 Comments

  1. Still Reforming

    These are such astute observations you’ve cited here, learned in the heat of trial. I feel foolish for having taken so long to catch on to the lies, but…. evil is crafty and deceptive. Years of listening to those oil-slick, so-easy-to-say lies is confusing. When my ex- told a whopper to my mother in the past year and she believed him, when she found out the truth, she exclaimed to me, “He was so convincing and believable.”

    I’m glad you posted this because in print, the Judas statement was one I long read and shook my head at, not quite getting it. Makes me feel very naive now not to have understood what he was doing there. Your post combined with Pastor Jeff’s most recent post make me very grateful indeed for the experience and wisdom given of God in turning on the light in this present darkness and dark age in which we live. This evil masquerading as light is real evil indeed.

  2. a prodigal daughter returns

    Thank you for disarming one of the weapons abusers can use so skillfully and with such damage. In fact, I had a “friend” that used this method far better than my battering husband. but I didn’t understand the emotional abuse in the question or that it wasn’t a question but a steady erosion of my value. He’d pose each insult with “why” and in general terms so that there was plausible deniability which if I raised a protest he could say, “why are you taking this personally, why are you so sensitive, I just asked a question?” Questions would go like this, asked with sincerity as if he really wanted in answer. I bought the sincerity act for years.

    “Why are Christians so judgmental?” “Why are they so poorly read?” “Why are they so ignorant?” “Why are American’s so stupid and racist?” “Why are women so ____?” (fill in the negative insultant descriptor) They were countless, it became so incessant that I cringed when he opened his mouth. I couldn’t deny that sometimes Christians are judgemental, stupid and racist and I would answer these questions in detail. After years I noticed he only asked his demeaning questions to a group I was in, Christian for example, female, etc. Northern Europeans, in my age group and believers were particular targets until one day I asked myself “why do I consider this a friend:” I looked at the abuse wheel and saw that everything about me was constantly insulted and devalued by this friend but in the form of “why”. The man also constantly played the victim even if he was the perpetrator in a situation.

  3. Ann

    Please write the post about using deception as protection in domestic abuse! Very confusing when dealing with controlling spouses or emotional abuse, whether it is ethical or not? I do not want too lie, but I use half truthsl all the time to avoid my spouses wrath or to be able to make a choice contrary to my spouse.

    • Yes, Ann, it’s next on my list.

    • poohbear

      Ann, I go through this myself…I try to be such an honest person, but I find myself being “deceptive” just to avoid his wrath and in a vain attempt to prevent our child from witnessing another blow up. Then he turns it on me, calling me a liar, sneaky, and the like, which cuts like a knife. I understand where you’re coming from

  4. The core of an abuser’s questions: “…to trap him.”

    My interactions with a-h use to be so chaotic and exhausting until someone taught me to answer his question with a question ( something learned in psychology class). It really does uncover the *heart* behind a-h’s accusation filled, looking for material to twist questioning.

    An example: He has already put me in a bad light with most others. But my friend who now knows about the abuse (who use to be friendly with a-h) refuses to interact with him. This is a chink in his armor and it unnerves him.
    —Him” “What do you say to K?”
    —-Me: “About what?”
    —Him: “What lies do you tell her?”
    —Me: “Who says I lie to her?”
    —Him: “She won’t talk to me, why?”
    —Me: “Why are you asking me? She’s a grown woman, she can answer for herself.”
    Him: Mouth hanging open.
    Me: I walk away.

    • Still Reforming

      7stelle,
      I love this! I think having one’s mind settled about not playing the abuser’s own game, but being prepared for it, helps to keep one’s own sanity to some extent.
      At one point, I read a similarly helpful tactic (can’t remember if it’s called by any particular name), but it was basically making sure that I had a plan or goal if my anti-husband was non-committal. One exchange went something like this:
      Me: I have a doctor appt. and it would be better if our child weren’t present there. Can you watch her?
      Him: I don’t know. We’ll have to see. I’ll give you my answer later.
      Me: That’s okay. I’ll just make other plans for her.
      Him: Well, maybe I WANT to watch her. That’s not fair.
      Me: Not true. If you had a doctor’s appointment for yourself, you’d make sure you could schedule time off work. It’s not a problem though; I’ll just take her with me or have someone else watch her. Don’t worry about it.
      Him: Well, I can probably watch her.
      Me: No, that’s okay, I’m going to make sure I have someone else.
      Him: I’ll watch her.
      When I relayed this exchange to my pastor around that time (which was years ago), my pastor thought it was a really good thing – the exchange – because it showed I was working with him. I remember thinking how odd that my pastor would think such an exchange was a good thing. The truth is it was really wrong that I had to employ any tactic at all. Even so, I think not “playing the game” according to the premise set by the abuser is helpful to the target, if one is able to safely do so.

      • 7stelle

        Still Reforming,
        Being shown why he asked questions has made all the difference. I agree with you; I don’t want or like these exchanges. I’m just plain sick of living like this. I will be filing for divorce this year.

        The area I don’t handle well is when he boldface lies to me and more so to the children; this week it was about money. He is financially abusing me and gives the kids a pitiful story about how he has no money when they have a need. He makes a good income yet is charging EVERYTHING! This state will make me responsible for half of those charges. This past week I did not handle his lies well at all. I lost my temper big time and cursed. I erupted like a volcano!!! I haven’t done that in a long while. I realized he had set me up by saying something very specific he knew I would react to because it involved the children and he was recording me. I hate that I spoke that way. This is the next grenade in his arsenal I need and must disarm.

        The exchange with your husband shows how self absorbed he is and wants to make sure he preserves his reputation when he feels it is threatened. He showed his true colors. You did a great! job of letting him know things will get done with or without him.

        (Comment edited to protect the commenter’s identity)

    • Hope

      Brilliant!
      (Shortest comment I’ve ever made anywhere!)

  5. Anonymous

    My husband always says that you shouldn’t ask a question that you don’t already know the answer to. This is a lawyer’s tactic and one he employs constantly. It is deceitful and manipulative and gross and I can see why it wears people down. He does not “share” when he communicates with others, he’s merely acting like he doesn’t know the answers to the questions he’s asking and he’s also “testing” everyone to see if they are too dumb to know it or if they are lying to him. (So romantic!) Someone else pointed out that people without a conscience always want to be “right.” Yes. Notice that they don’t care about TRUTH, just being CONSIDERED right (whatever the current acceptance of what “right” is to the current society they live in). (Judas knew that by SAYING the “right” thing about the money, others would hesitate to accuse him of ulterior motives.)

    1 John 2: 21-22, I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

    People without a conscience believe that they are god. They are doing just what this verse warns us to look for–denying that JESUS is the Christ and believing that THEY are. It’s how their mind operates and because of this, what’s written in Johh 8:44 (“He has never been truthful. He doesn’t know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he’s doing what comes naturally to him.”) helps us to see more clearly what we’re dealing with. Those of us with the Holy Spirit in our hearts have the truth, it’s just been mired in all the lies for so long that it’s crusty, so when the lies are torn off, it hurts a tad bit.

    2 Peter 2:3, In their greed they will use good-sounding arguments to exploit you. The verdict against them from long ago is still in force, and their destruction is not asleep.

    One expert noted that people without a conscience are completely asocial. They do not form true sharing/giving relationships because they are completely selfish/self-serving/self-interested. They are like the devil in this regard. The evil one is constantly seeking out “relationships” but to what end? Is he lonely or guilt-ridden or wanting to prevent others from being in his predicament because he’s learned what being ostracized from God really means? Or is he STILL, like the Bible says he was from the beginning, a liar and a murderer seeking to murder and lie to a new generation? ” Their destruction is not asleep,” and they never tire from doing evil. “Whose judgment from the first has not been idle” (the word for judgment here is: “κρίμα” and denotes condemnatory sentence, penal judgment) so their evil is not a passive thing but active and they are actively being condemned because of it. (They are choosing to be this way.)

    Thank you Barbara for continuing to help us. For continuing to dig into God’s word and revealing its treasures. We all need it and grow because of it.

  6. Hope

    Thank you so much Barbara, lies are anathema to any relationship! This helps me so much!
    Still Reforming – I still feel like such a dope for believing for sooo long! You are not the only one, dear friend; we want to trust our own husbands, we want to believe that they love us as we love(d) them, and we should be able to – but you can’t trust or believe a liar and they are usually very difficult to discover.

    The lies roll so glibly off my PH’s (Phony Husband’s) tongue, that initially I believed them all – and from very early on lived in massive confusion and sadness, among a few other choice emotions, none good. I learned that what he said did not match his behavior, and then had to somehow discern what was truth and what wasn’t – very difficult! Until very recently I believed some of his lies, but now I realize that they are ALL lies, every single one, designed to keep me confused and stuck – like a fly caught in a spider’s web. The newer ones are designed to keep me, period. I cannot say even now if he has any idea of what he is doing, but the smirk I often see flash across his face when I am in pain from his words or behavior makes me think he knows exactly what he is doing and why. EG: he is making good and sure that he gets exactly what he wants at no cost to himself. I paid all costs, and a few were paid by my beautiful children.

    What affects the mind and emotions affects the body as well, and I am now on a long road to recovering my health which broke utterly 9 years ago. The recovery is progressing, I am improving, but the point I really want to make is that this state I am currently in is all because of LIES. Lies I naively believed and based my life upon, believing he was the Christian he claimed to be and that this was just a very difficult marriage. He fooled my parents, my siblings, my friends, my church, you name it he fooled them all – including me.

    I think we Christians are often too trusting, believing what a person says when they tell us that they are Christians like we are. We need to be wiser, more discerning, and stand back and note the actions at a distance before we become involved – even with friends; I’ve had massive trouble from a couple of phony friends, too. How do you like that – even friends can be abusive, though the word I applied then was “toxic.” We need to be taught about insidious lies in churches and Sunday schools, instead of being given trite and shallow 15 minute lessons! It is, as Barbara so rightly and eloquently pointed out, totally Scriptural to be able to discern lies and liars!

    I know this next that I say flies in the face of many Christian marriage sites and maybe I am way off base here and in need of correction, but I do not believe that marriage is supposed to be harder than being single, I do not believe a good marriage should make me a sadder person, a lesser person than I was when single, and I was single for a long time as I got married later than most. I do not believe a good marriage should tear me down from stress and emotional and psychological pain and unmet needs far more than being single ever did. I really do believe that a good marriage requires work and growth – but doesn’t everything worthwhile? It should make me a better person, but also a happier person, and a more fulfilled person than being single did; otherwise what’s the point? Who on earth would ever want to be married if they knew it would be heartbreakingly difficult with no up side, and if they were told that they would have to fight tooth and nail every day just for the right to breathe and exist? That is not a Christian, covenant marriage. Christ never behaved in such a fashion towards the Church. The world brutalizes the Church, satan brutalizes the Church, but Jesus does not.

    Here’s my question (yes, please chime in!): Are these people, these abusers who claim to be Christians, really Christians? We cannot know their heart of course, but we do need to be at least discerning enough to keep from tying ourselves to them, even in friendship but certainly in marriage. We need to be able to see the lies for what they really are, because the lies of this world run deep. To refine my question: is it possible for an abusive person to still be a Christian yet be so self-absorbed and so self-centered and infantile that they never grew in Christ and never actually put Christ at their heart’s center? Or does the fact of abuse really negate that likelihood?
    A Christian child understands salvation, but is not adept at thinking of others before herself/himself. Could an adult be like this – a baby Christian that never grew? I am unsure, because the tree analogy leaves very little room for this sort of thinking; you know, the good tree bears good fruit, and the bad tree bears bad fruit. Perhaps there is little room for doubt in this analogy because we are being warned not to get too close to these sorts, and their salvation is God’s business, after all, not ours. For my part, I believe we should run screaming away from them all.

    I do hope that some are genuinely saved, but I do not even know if it is possible for a person to be saved and be abusive at the same time.

    • Still Reforming

      Hope,
      Bingo to all you wrote. Bingo especially to this –> “now I realize that they are ALL lies, every single one, designed to keep me confused and stuck – like a fly caught in a spider’s web. ”

      Even recently my ex-h responded to emails saying he’d do everything the doctors say we should do for our child. Even when he’s agreeable it’s a lie, because I know that he can in a heartbeat not do as he says he will (20 years experience taught me this) OR he’ll be nice to entice the fly back in the web so he can bite (same thing learned over time).

      Your question about can an abuser be a Christian is something I’ve learned the answer to here on this site. For a person to continually lie and manipulate and yet be regenerated by the Holy Spirit? I don’t believe it’s possible. “Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God.” – 1 John 3:9

      I know there are better Scriptural expository posts here on this site that will lay out the reasoning better for you, but the short answer is no. Such a one cannot be a Christian. Such a one is of the world and serves the enemy of God. It is impossible to serve Christ and have HIm be your Lord AND continue to lie knowingly (That’s kinda redundant, as one can’t lie unknowingly. Howzabout lie with self-serving intention over and over and over and over and over and over and over………………? Maybe that helps. It’s impossible for such a one to belong to Jesus.)

      It’s a very good question you ask, by the way. I think it took me years of pondering if my anti-husband was really a Christian or not, because he did all the outward motions and occasionally would say something about God or buy me something God-related (a rock with Scripture on it or something like that). I slowly came to realize he couldn’t be a Christian after spending some time on this site reading (and listening to Pastor Jeff’s sermons about abuse at sermononline -). Oh WOOT! While searching my files for a linky to provide you for those audio sermons, I found the following, a DIGEST of articles on why an abuser cannot be a Christian. Kick your heels up, get a piping hot cuppa your favorite caff or non-caff drink, and sit down to read:

      https://cryingoutforjustice.com/2014/10/04/why-an-abuser-cannot-be-a-christian-a-digest-of-articles-at-a-cry-for-justice/

      If I can locate the link with Pastor Jeff’s abuse sermons, I’ll add it too. If you’re able to listen at all, I highly recommend them.

    • Still Reforming

      Hope,
      Here’s a link to Pastor Jeff’s audio sermon series on-line re: the abuser and God’s Word related to abuse. All of these sermons are downloadable to computer laptops and mp3 players (ie, for headphone listening, so no one else can hear what you’re listening to)

  7. Some deceitful questions I’ve heard:
    “How am I _____?”
    “Don’t I always ______?”
    “Doesn’t the Bible say ______?”

  8. lindsey

    I had to travel for work recently. The plan was to leave my children with their dad. They had been doing well with their visits every other weekend, of course it’s always a roller coaster.
    My son had a meltdown, begging me to not leave them with him for so long (a week) because it always “goes bad if it’s more than two days” (direct quote from my son, 8 years old). And it’s true. Something always happens when they stay with him for more than two days. I guess I just had hope that he was doing better with his treatment of the kids, but that was a mistake. (Well… hope isn’t a mistake. The mistake is when I risk the kids’ well being because I think he has changed, and then learn I’m wrong.)

    So I made arrangements for someone to help with the care of my children during my trip. Their dad would have them for two days, I asked family to fill in for the rest. My ex called my pastor, told him that I was “arbitrarily” taking the kids from him. He asked my Pastor “What does the BIBLE say about breaking your word? Because that’s what SHE is doing?” My pastor was trapped into agreeing with him that I should be keeping my word because my yes should be yes.

    I wasn’t going to tell my ex that the reason I was changing my mind was because my son begged and pleaded not to go. I wasn’t going to throw him under the bus. When my pastor called me to tell me my ex’s complaints, I told him WHY I was making new arrangements, he said, “Well THAT is the missing piece of the story, thank you.” Fortunately my pastor is discerning enough to see through the sheep’s clothing that the wolf wears.

    This is just one example of MANY of how my ex uses the Bible as a weapon. He used it while we were married, he used it in our church when I was separating from him, he uses it now with his current church.

  9. Anonymous

    I love how your ex framed it up with that question, “What does the BIBLE say about breaking your word?” This is often what people without a conscience do, pin people down by posing certain questions and totally ignoring other ones. Your pastor had no obligation to ask you that question by the way. He could’ve asked your husband some other questions such as, “Why do you want to accuse the mother of your children when she is clearly making thoughtful arrangements for the children?” or “Are the children being cared for and are their needs being met?’ The list of questions is endless as most of us know, yet nobody seems to think of these things when it comes to us.

    By the way, my child and I use the analogy of a cat. For those of us who love cats we know that you can pet them X amount of times (say 7) before they must bite. The number is not consistent but we know that they can only maintain for so long before they attack. It’s their nature. The same with an evil one. They MUST attack at some point as they hate peace, and are actually soothed by evil. Clearly two days is his max but if he knew it was only two days that he had access to the kids, he’d have to get an attack in before that. It is their nature, and they love what they are.

    • Moving Forward

      Anonymous, you are so right. We have cats, and they have a limit to being nice about attention, then they let you know it is time to leave them alone. I love the analogy, and I see it with my stbx all the time. He can only send a polite email one or twice in a row, then it is snap and bite. He just cannot hold that nature in. Nice followed by mean. over and over again. And yes, they are soothed by evil. Before he walked out on us, I would see that when he would be owly, and finally send a nasty, accusing email. Then, while I am reeling from the words, he comes up all happy and ready for a hug. He’s taken his anger out on me, now he’s doing just fine; what’s my problem? No conscience; what a help know that is.

      • Still Reforming

        Moving Forward,

        You just identified something I’d long forgotten – and that is the ability of my ex- to just be as if we never had had a disagreement. Before I ever started reading about passive (aka covert) aggression or sociopathy, I was long confounded by how he and I could differ over something or have some big chasm between us about an issue and, like a light switch, he could be just like it never happened. All sweetness and light. That always confounded me.

        Now I see that it is part of sociopathy – an absolute lack of conscience.
        In my ex-‘s case, I don’t think he needed the release of anger or some disagreement. I think in his case it’s just utility, ie if it worked for whatever his purposes were at any given moment, that was the “emotion” he went with. It’s just all functional and practical for him. If it fit his needs, that’s what he went with.

        I think that’s how he was able to have several really huge explosions of anger in front of me and his child and then go on as if he had just said, “Pass the salt.” I don’t even know if there was real anger there, because in all cases, there was never anything he could point to that had upset him. It was all just blather and qualifications and descriptions about me in a negative way.

        Thank God for shining true light on these matters for all of us.

  10. parishioner

    hope,

    sometimes we ask the wrong questions. I wonder sometimes if asking if an abuser can be a Christian is the wrong question. probably not in your case, but sometimes people ask this as subconscious justification for remaining in a situation they need to remove themselves from, or because they question their discernment in entering the relationship, or they’re suffering from guilt over leaving.

    since only God knows for sure where we’re going to end up for eternity, it seems best to ask other questions, like:

    • does s/he claim Jesus is their Lord, but their actions never line up with their confession?
    • do I feel safe pointing out their hypocrisy in a godly manner?
    • if I am able to point to their hypocrisy, do they respond by acknowledging they need to repent, and make it their goal to take responsibility for their behavior, and acknowledge they are answerable to god for how they treat people?
    • if the problem is chronic, are they seeking help and doing the hard work needed for deliverance from this sin?

    if you don’t receive the correct answers to these questions, then whether or not you will see them in heaven isn’t actually relevant to your status quo. you need to ask God what He wants you to do to remove or protect yourself from the effects of their disobedience.

    my abusive stepfather “prayed the prayer” and is an avid church-goer. it is possible his difficulty (I am being kind) in submitting to Jesus’ lordship over his actions stems from horrific child abuse inflicted by his mother, who was abused in an orphanage. he is free to work all this out with God the thousands of miles away from me where he is now, and I am free to pray for him from a safe distance, without contact. the same goes for my ex.

    they are free to work out their salvation, if such salvation awaits them, but not to beat it out in Morse code on the side of my head. if repentance is in their future, then they will surely need to bear consistent fruit in keeping with it for all to see.

    • they are free to work out their salvation, if such salvation awaits them, but not to beat it out in Morse code on the side of my head.

      What a great turn of phrase!

      Welcome to the blog, Parishioner! 🙂
      If you haven’t already done so, please check out our New Users Info page in the top menu.

  11. 7stelle

    Please write the article on protective deception. Yikes! that sounds awful.

    • I’ll get onto it this week! It’s First on my list of things to write.

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